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Alexander ALLAN
(1800 –1867)
Agnes WEBSTER
(Abt 1798 – )
father UNK
(Abt 1818 – )
Agnes ALLAN
(1823 – )
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Alexander ALLAN
(Abt 1839 – )

 

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Alexander ALLAN 1 2 3
  • Born: Abt 1839, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland 2
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Note:  I am not certain that Alexander Allan is the son of Agnes; it is only clear (from the 1861 census) that he is the grandson of Alexander Allan and Agnes Webster.  Since the sons are still fairly young in the 1841 census, it seems likely that Alexander Allan is an illegetimate son of one of the daughters of the family —   but it could be either Janet or Agnes.  I needed a place to attach Alexander in the tree, so I simply picked Agnes because she was listed first in the 1841 census (perhaps implying that she seemed the elder daughter since she had a son).  Dec 2009, kmh.

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bullet  Recorded Events in His Life

  • He appeared on the 1841 Census of Scotland on 6 June 1841 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland. 2

Alexander Allan   40   Ayrshire, Scotland   Mason J
Agness Allan      40   Ayrshire, Scotland
Agness Allan      25   Ayrshire, Scotland
Janet Allan       20   Ayrshire, Scotland
Mathew Allan      15   Ayrshire, Scotland
Robert Allan      13   Ayrshire, Scotland
Janet Allan       11   Ayrshire, Scotland
Margret Allan      7   Ayrshire, Scotland
Elisebeth Allan    4   Ayrshire, Scotland
Alexander Allan    1   Ayrshire, Scotland
Robert Wallace    13   Scotland


Note:  The 1841 census for this family is a bit problematic.  It is unfortunate that the 1851 census records are missing for the parish of Kilmarnock, otherwise that might have helped to clarify some of these issues.  There are church records for only 4 children born to this couple:  Janet (b. 1820), Agnes (b. 1823), Matthew (b. 1825), and Robert (b. 1827).  The 1861 census shows that Elizabeth is also a daughter (b. abt 1837), and that there is another son named Robert A. Allan (b. abt 1842).  Presumably the first son Robert died before 1842 and a subsequent son took that name.  Alexander, b. abt 1839, is listed as a grandson in the 1861 census.

The ages for Janet (20), Matthew (15), and Robert (13) are spot on for the birth records for the children of Alexander and Agnes.  The age for Agness Allan (25) is off —     however, since the 1841 census didn't try to list exact ages for adults, it's hard to know how much weight to give this inaccurate age. (In the 1841 census an age is assigned based on a birthyear within a particular 5-year-range.)  So is Agness Allan (25) another relative —     perhaps a niece, or maybe even Alexander's younger sister (with an age that's off by 5 years)?  Perhaps Alexander is Agnes' son, and that's why she's listed before her older sister Janet?  Then there's the question of the second Janet Allan in the census.  If the first Janet is their daughter, then who is this second Janet?  Another relative?  She seems to be a bit too old to be a granddaughter.  Presumably Margaret is another daughter (as is Elizabeth), but she could also be another niece or relative from the same family as the second Janet.

  • He has conflicting birth information of Abt 1843 and Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland. 3 4
  • He worked as an engine fitter on 7 April 1861 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland.
  • He appeared on the 1861 Census of Scotland on 7 April 1861 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland. 3 4

Alexander Allan    Head       Mar   M   60   Railway Labourer    Ayrshire Dundonald    *
Agnes       "      Wife       Mar   F   62                           "    Kilmarnock
Robert A.   "      Son        Un    M   18   Engine Fitter           "        "
Elizabeth   "      Daur       Un    F   23   Milliner                "        "
Alexander   "      Grandson   Un    M   17   Engine Fitter           "        "
Janet Mullhollan   Visitor    W.    F   56   Embroideress            "        "
   *2 rooms with one or more windows


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bullet   Sources   bullet

  1. Kirsty M. Haining.
  2. National Records of Scotland and brightsolid Online Publishing Ltd., ScotlandsPeople (https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/), 1841 Census of Scotland; digital images (Edinburgh, Scotland: General Register Office for Scotland. Reels 1–151. © Crown copyright), Alexander Allan household, Kilmarnock Robertson Place No 72, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland (597), enumeration district (ED) 25, page 5.
  3. Scotland. Ayrshire, 1861 Census of Scotland. Digital images. (National Records of Scotland and brightsolid Online Publishing Ltd. ScotlandsPeople. https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ : © Crown copyright), parish of Kilmarnock (597), enumeration district (ED) 17, page 21, schedule no. 130, Alexander Allan, grandson(https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ : accessed 13 December 2009); citing © Crown copyright census data from the General Register Office of Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland.
  4. Ancestry.com, 1861 Scotland Census [database on-line] (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006). Original data: Scotland. 1861 Scotland Census. Reels 1–150. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland.


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